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Trinity

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Is God offensive?
« on: March 20, 2017, 05:06:17 PM »
I was looking into some definitions today and I came across something that struck me as odd (emphasis mine):

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/thank+goodness

thank goodness (spoken)
     I am pleased or happy thank heavens My husband cleans the barn every day, thank goodness.
             Usage notes: often used instead of the more offensive idiom thank God
Related vocabulary: thank God
See also: goodness, thank


Who would think ''Thank God'' is offensive?

Christians? I don't think so.
Muslims? I don't think so.
Jews? I don't think so.
Hindus? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Buddhists? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Atheists? It would seem so.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 05:27:56 PM by Trinity »
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 06:21:35 PM »
Who would think ''Thank God'' is offensive?

Christians who see it as taking God's name in vain.
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 06:28:00 PM »
Who would think ''Thank God'' is offensive?

Christians who see it as taking God's name in vain.

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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 06:43:30 PM »
Can you explain how thanking God is taking God's name in vain? I can understand that using ''thank God'' sarcastically or cynically can be an instance of taking God's name in vain, but that may not be what you mean.

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If ''thank God'' is offensive, then would it be politically incorrect to thank God?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 07:12:21 PM »
Can you explain how thanking God is taking God's name in vain? I can understand that using ''thank God'' sarcastically or cynically can be an instance of taking God's name in vain, but that may not be what you mean.

It is taking his God in vain unless you actually imply that God is directly and repeatedly causing her husband to clean the barn.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 09:08:14 PM »
Can you explain how thanking God is taking God's name in vain? I can understand that using ''thank God'' sarcastically or cynically can be an instance of taking God's name in vain, but that may not be what you mean.

It doesn't need to be sarcastic or cynical for some Christians (e.g. my mom) to be offended.  Simply saying it casually such as, "Thank God Edelman caught that pass.", is seen as taking God's name in vain.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 09:54:40 PM »
That is helpful. It would seem the intention behind what is being said is important to judge whether or not the person is taking God's name in vain. The intention doesn't need to be sarcastic or cynical, true. For someone to take God's name in vain his or her intention needs to be at least irreverent and at most evil. So I can see how Christians could take offense at ''thank God''. Though it would also seem that one isn't required to be a Christian to take offense at ''thank God''. One could also be a non-Christian or even an atheist to be offended by ''thank God''. If I remember correctly, there was an article posted some months ago on people taking offense at saying ''God bless'' during school class. I don't remember the details, but I could look it up if needed.
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 10:27:52 PM »
I was looking into some definitions today and I came across something that struck me as odd (emphasis mine):

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/thank+goodness

thank goodness (spoken)
     I am pleased or happy thank heavens My husband cleans the barn every day, thank goodness.
             Usage notes: often used instead of the more offensive idiom thank God
Related vocabulary: thank God
See also: goodness, thank


Who would think ''Thank God'' is offensive?

Christians? I don't think so.
Muslims? I don't think so.
Jews? I don't think so.
Hindus? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Buddhists? I don't think so, but I could be wrong.
Atheists? It would seem so.

The husband might be offended that he's not receiving the gratitude.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 10:30:15 PM by HB »

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 10:30:40 PM »
Totes offensive

Trinity

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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 10:53:17 PM »
HB,

It doesn't seem a theist husband would mind that God receives the gratitude. In such scenario, an atheist husband would more likely be offended that he's not receiving the gratitude.
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2017, 01:50:21 AM »
HB,

It doesn't seem a theist husband would mind that God receives the gratitude. In such scenario, an atheist husband would more likely be offended that he's not receiving the gratitude.

Trinity, let it go.  You posted a thread trying to find yet another thing you can blame atheists for, and it totally backfired.  The mature thing would have been to learn and reflect.  The expected thing would have been for you to walk away and try a different line of attack another day.  Actually persisting in this is just sad.
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2017, 01:53:01 AM »
Crash,

You've misunderstood this thread as an attack on atheists for some reason. If I was attacking atheists, then why would I agree with Wonderer's comment?
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 01:58:23 AM »
Crash,

You've misunderstood this thread as an attack on atheists for some reason. If I was attacking atheists, then why would I agree with Wonderer's comment?

You mean the post where you talked as if you agreed with wonderer, but actually said something slightly (and importantly) different, and then immediately tried to repeat your original claim by vaguely referencing an article you think you remember on a totally different issue?
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2017, 02:01:49 AM »
I agreed with Wonderer, there is no ''as if'' to it. I did mention that being a Christian isn't a prerequisite to being offended, but that doesn't diminish what Wonderer said.
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Re: Is God offensive?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2017, 02:08:07 AM »
Here is an updated version based on the points raised so far:

Who would think ''Thank God'' is offensive?

Christians? Yes, if God's name is used in vain.
Muslims? Yes, if God's name is used in vain.
Jews? Yes, if God's name is used in vain.
Hindus? Unsure.
Buddhists? Unsure.
Atheists? Yes, if God's name is used in a politically incorrect context.

This is my view, others can disagree.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 02:10:25 AM by Trinity »
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