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Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Is Chiropractic Real Science?
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:58:05 am »
Yes it is total nonsense. As for why it is legal, lots of alternative medicine practices (i.e. stuff with no evidence that it works) are legal.

What you want is a qualified physiotherapist who specializes in back pain and spine problems. Probably also good to see a GP and get a referral, you might need an MRI or some such to check out how your disks etc. are doing. Some chiropractors are better than others and will do things that a physiotherapist might, rather than the woo, but you would still be better off seeing a physiotherapist.

Most common spinal and back pain problems require various sorts of exercises to strengthen and correct the muscles supporting the spine and neck. They can't be fixed in the long term by just cracking some bones etc.
sheez..  its like i wrote this..  I agree.  In Australia, physios are allowed to work in Hospitals.... Chrios are not. Avoid.

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Struggeling Family of 5
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:52:17 am »
I dont believe you.   Also i gave you $5 on paypal as you requested. Ask and you shall receive.

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Where do Human Rights come from?
« on: November 05, 2020, 07:44:19 am »
Firstly, there is no such thing as rights. They just don't exist. ohh wait... "you have the right to remain silent."

Secondly, John Locke never said there was a explicit right of equality...   He said, "all men are created equal"
It means we are Tabula Rasa..   it was never a physical or literal sense of equality, Tabula rasa meaning we are equally born with zero knowledge.  Thats the only equality we have with each other, we came in empty of any knowledge of this world.
Locke was a empiricist, so he believed all knowledge came from experience, for that to be true, we have to have zero knowledge at birth.

Lastly, there are no Objective moral values. "Might makes right" Tell me im wrong..

Political Threads / Is Fascism Racism, Nazism Extreme right?
« on: August 20, 2020, 06:15:56 am »
Continually i see it getting bought up that ppl like Donald trump are Fascists... and that they are extreme Right..

Im not disputing that Trump might be extreme right..

But i am disputing the idea that Racism or Fascism is in fact extreme right... i dont think it is.

Elements like Fascism are a quasi mix from the political compass from what i can tell.... and therefore it is not extreme right or even really Right wing.

For instance, Mussolini started a fascist party, it was a right wing party, in the sense that it vehemently opposed communism....  but that only makes it right of the absolute extreme left... and not particuly "Right" at all.

Racism, or should i say Discrimination is the corner stone of Fascism, usually genetic (i: Nazis hating Jews).... but many fascist states are theological fascist, like Iran who dont tolerate any other religion... (you dont have to carry out mass murder to be a Fascist either)

But Racism on the extreme right is a non thing to me it seems.., the "right" is about the individual and his liberty, while you are more likely to hear racism from the right under the umbrella of "Free speech", if it was to ever develop into a political force applying racist policy it would simply no longer be "Right wing" as it is denying individual freedoms.

So i would agree the seed for Fascism could be a by product of liberty.. free speech...  but it would quickly cease to be considered on the right side once it started trying to apply such things.

While libertarian social/individual freedoms are extreme right (one below Anarchists which are the true extreme right... despite what ppl thinking groups like antifa are anarchists.. they are not)

More to the middle right you have your conservatives, who usually believe in tradition, things that are sacred...   to some extent Hitler was a conservative as he wanted to preserve traditions..   
But the way in which this preservation took place was not from the Classical liberalism that most conservatives also hold true i feel, and hitler was denying that.

So Hitler was in alot of sense on the Right... but that position is soon abandoned once he wants to forces others under a Authoritarian rule..    and one that is central mostly and controlling peoples daily lives. (public spending, people cars etc..)

If anything the right gives rise to fascism by providing it a place to discuss speak about its ideas... but once it goes beyond that...  i cant see how it is not all Authoritarian left...   a fascist has to eliminate or re-educate those who are undesirable, this needs to be done by mass central instruments of government, which is the antithesis of the Right, further it is foundational in getting fascism in a position to correct the problems they have.

So why does the Right or extreme right get tagged as being Fascists?   
Is it just a vestige of history in the fight against communism?  everything is right of communism and all fascist got called that in europe as it was the biggest opposition to the communist forces in europe?

I think calling fascist or Racists right wing needs to be stopped.. 

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Faith As Committed Action, Not Belief
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:37:58 am »
"things hoped for that are not seen" Is how it ought be read...  Hoping for something that has "been seen" is not Faith, but belief.

Hoping for things not ever seen is faith... for the layman.. of course..

Political Threads / Re: What are your thoughts on Donald Trump?
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:31:43 am »
Political posts are no longer appropriate to this forum.  That is due to a change in the rules which was the result of a few people abusing the privilege and at one time starting 3, 4 or more political topics per day which were mostly clickbait.  That being said, what I do think could still be appropriate is discussion about why Evangelicals believe Trump was sent by or appointed by God.  I'm interested in hearing what reasoning there is behind such a belief.
Colossians 1:16
For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.

The conversations seem to go like this:

EVANGELICAL TRUMP SUPPORTER: Donald Trump was sent by God to give us a victory and restore our country to what it should be.
SKEPTIC*: Why would you believe a man with a moral character like Trump was sent by God?
EVANGELICAL TRUMP SUPPORTER: God can work His will through anyone, even someone who is seemingly unlikely. 

The next line should be but rarely is: Can God work His will through a liberal Democrat?

*Note that the SKEPTIC in this conversation can just as easily be a conservative Christian as anyone else.
personal revelation. 

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Cringeianity
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:25:22 am »
FYI, it costs more to execute:
It dosnt have too... aka.. SS einsantz  gruppen.

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Phil. 2:6-11
« on: July 10, 2020, 06:59:43 am »
You lost me at Ehrman.

Sorry, it was mainly for those who were familiar with Ehrman's,argument. My suggestion if you have interest is buy the book and come back to discuss. It's one of his better books by far.

I'm familiar with him, I just don't know why I'd listen to an atheist about what the Bible says. To me, he did the math and got the wrong answer.
Mods... delete this user.

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: Slavery, the Bible and Christianity
« on: July 08, 2020, 07:42:11 am »
Bible says nothing about slavery really...  it just states treat your slaves well. It makes no comment on being allowed slaves.  Meaning, Christians can have slaves. 
Its just a accepted part of the world, like Jesus said, "you will always have the poor"
And that is a logical deduction to which the conclusion is impossible to avoid... from the most capitalist society to the the most Socialist, there is the poor.

The real question is, what is meant by slave..   God, nor any accepting christian would condone whips to the back slaves..
But would you accept a life long slave who has shelter, food, a certain amount of autonomy as much as any 9 to 5 worker? 
I struggle to find the difference..  i see more advantages to a slave than a 9 to 5 worker with a mortgage...

An extension to Proverbs 22:7 "The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender."

I came up with..
  "The borrower of money is the slaves, slave"   

Meaning, if you get released from slavery, you gain your freedom, if you dont pay your loan, you lose your asset, equity and anything you worked for in interest payments.    The rental of money is not far from slavery, if not worse... at least you know where you stand when you are just a slave.
Do you think the slave worked as hard as the borrower to keep what he had?  when the slave had nothing to lose?

Trinity / The head of Christ is God..
« on: July 04, 2020, 07:51:31 am »
If the head of christ is God...  1 Corinthians 11:3 
"3But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband and the head of Christ is God."

So, if God is the head of Christ, then Christ is not God?   surely? ... it is incontrovertible.
Therefor Trinity is False.


I have two pieces of advice for you:

(1) Lots of things can be true at the same time. We don't have to only believe, discuss, or emphasize the facts that one side cares about.
Like what? your truth?

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: AI Nirvana song (for hatsoff)
« on: June 26, 2020, 08:54:05 am »
There is no such thing as AI... its data in, data out.  when will ppl understand this? So the data base gets bigger, and the output data gets weird.. its not AI.

I dont get it..  nothing has been fixed to accommodate forum users on PC's since the last forum update..
The only reason it seems it was updated, was for Mobile users... when Google said they would no longer support sites with out mobile compliance...  but this completly F#$# the usability for PC users it seems. (and my user name) (who ever done it needs to be shot)
No options for text, and no shor cuts for inserting video links, images or Gifs... c'mon... this is 2020, for the forum to either not have the shortcuts to easlily add photos or the bandwidth is disturbing.
I just tried to add an attachment to a post... 27k btw..   Error i get..  "The attachments upload directory is not writable" you dont even have server space for a 27k image ?

I have to ask, why hasnt the forum software been addressed?   so many users slowly left over months becuase of it... they tried to stay... but nothing was fixed..  how is a supposed upgrade that only degraded the forums never fixed?

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: How does the Holy Spirit teach us?
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:53:22 am »
HS is overly esoteric and ambiguous... almost enough to make you not believe.

Choose Your Own Topic / Re: The Struggle to do Good
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:46:30 am »
My question to you would be:

"How did you determine that this pull to not view porn actually came from God and not just yourself ?"

How do you determine the view that writing this reply in a thread didnt come from you but God?

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