Poll

Who 'won' the almost complete debate?

Aleph Naught won the debate, but I still disagree with his viewpoint
2 (16.7%)
Aleph Naught won the debate and I continue to agree with his viewpoint
1 (8.3%)
Aleph Naught won the debate and convinced me to alter my viewpoint on the issue
0 (0%)
Friendly Banjo Atheist won the debate, but I still disagree with his viewpoint
3 (25%)
Friendly Banjo Atheist won the debate and I continue to agree with his viewpoint
2 (16.7%)
Friendly Banjo Atheist won the debate and convinced me to alter my viewpoint on the issue
0 (0%)
I cannot decide who won the debate
4 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 12

Voting closed: May 21, 2016, 05:23:20 am

Lion IRC

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Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« on: December 23, 2015, 04:23:20 am »
I'm calling it.
Banjo Atheist winner by a narrow margin.

1. Because of the TKO. Aleph forfeits for non-compliance with deadline rule. (Ignoring the rules - really? In a debate about objective rules LOL Classic!)

2. Because Banjo's style beat Aleph's substance - and on substance they were a dead heat AFAICT

3. Because Banjo's case was more logically consistent. It was a "preferences versus intuition" cage fight but at least Banjo's debate didn't pretend that subjective preferences transcended subjective intuitions.

Thanks for the debate guys.
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 05:56:14 am »
If rules were broken it is an invalid debate.  Result is both lost.

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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 01:33:23 pm »
Who did you vote for Questions11?
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2015, 11:41:24 pm »
Please see news at comment thread!
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 05:38:12 am »
Yeah, not so much.
The formal debate has ended. Obviously if they want to continue their unmoderated discussion in their own good time thats fine.

You gotta feel a bit of sympathy for Banjo Atheist who no-doubt rushed to meet his posting deadline
...needlessly as it turns out.
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 05:02:46 pm »
meddle
verb
gerund or present participle: meddling

- interfere in something that is not one's concern.
- touch or handle (something) without permission.
 
 
 
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2016, 04:40:33 pm »
Lion's preemptive assessment has now come to pass.  Please feel free to vote.
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Re: Aleph and FBA debate moral realism. Time to vote!
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 02:16:24 pm »
Do you have some basis for trusting your intuitions?

What exactly do you mean by "trust"? If you mean to ask whether I have some reason to think my intuitions are reliable (in that they probably produce true belief), the answer is no. But I don't think that's a problem since I'm not trying to infer anything from the fact that a belief is intuitive.

This is cut and paste from a recent thread, and my comment is that it clearly undercuts Aleph's argument.

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