If god is omniscient then it knows the fate of every atom. If fate exists then free will is impossible because free will is the power to act unconstrained by fate.
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Quote from: Truth on December 05, 2014, 10:22:33 pmIf god is omniscient then it knows the fate of every atom. If fate exists then free will is impossible because free will is the power to act unconstrained by fate.Your argument is disjointed. Let's separate the issues here.1. God's omniscience i.e. God knowing the truth values of all propositions2. Fate i.e. 1) the supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events. 2) a final result or consequence; an outcome. (Free dictionary)3. Free will i.e. The power of making free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstances or by an agency such as fate or divine will. (Free dictionary)What you have done is give us an argument for or against free will based on whether or not fate exists but it does nothing to negate God's omniscience. God's omniscience is not affected by whether fate and/or free will exist because God's omniscience does not determine any outcome as it is simply the knowledge of the truth values of all propositions i.e. whatever the outcome, God will know it. What I mean is that God knowing the fate of every atom does not mean God's knowledge of the fate of every atom determines the fate of every atom. Whether or not fate exists is independent of God's omniscience.As for your second statement, fate per the first sense in statement 2 exists in so far as the outcome is logically necessary. Fate per the second sense in statement 2 exists because that refers to any outcome. Taken this way, free will is not logically impossible on this understanding of fate. However, if by fate you mean the singular power that determines all outcomes then that kind of fate will be seen by some as a death knell to the idea of free will. But some philosphers are willing to make that understanding of fate compatible with free will. Whichever way you look at it, you are going to have to come up with a robust defence of your position.
Quote from: Truth on December 05, 2014, 10:22:33 pm... the fate of every atom ...Why stop there?
But many other bible teachings do indicate that God has foreknowledge. It is not something God "chooses to have", but something He has as an essential part of his perfect nature. "Now, if God chooses to know beforehand each and every action we'll take then how exactly are we free? How are we free to choose between life and death, the blessing and the curse?" Perhaps this question could be flipped on its head: Why does God's foreknowing and event, mean that event is rendered unfree?
Well think about it, if you knew someone was going to murder an entire family and had the means to stop it, would you stop that person from murdering them?Sure I would if I could. I am not quite sure I understand the objection. If my foreknowledge of this future murder was 100% accurate (like God's foreknowledge), then were I to act to stop the murder in the future, I would also foreknow that I will stop the murder. Does this make sense? This podcast is packed with some interesting discussion on this: https://www.reasonablefaith.org/podcasts/defenders-podcast-series-2/s2-doctrine-of-god-attributes-of-god/doctrine-of-god-part-14/