Religious Epistemology

Presumption of Atheism

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Re: There is at least one impossible fact
« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2019, 01:57:36 pm »
Creation requires a creator.  Pretty simple.  To recognize the necessity of God is not to say "God made it"; it's to say that every painting has a painter, and every building a builder, and every creation a creator.  Simple.  Absent God you have only absurdity, the notion that absolutely nothing creating everything.

Not if the initial condition of the Universe,"Creation," is uncaused and hence uncreated.
TP is correct, and the flaw of the theologians is substituting imagination for science. God can be proved, but to advanced souls there is no need. They see the marks of His work in their souls. Scientists will no doubt continue to deny the possibility of a Creator, backing their ideas by big mathematical tomes. Yet in the end, the theologians will deny God too.


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Re: There is at least one impossible fact
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2019, 09:19:55 pm »
Do you think that the things and events in this world are arbitrary? Then there must be a reason for everything that happens, even at the most minuscule level. This is the same as saying that Reason itself is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.