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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2015, 03:08:33 pm »

If we were to meet and be friends, you'd find me the same on this forum as I am in person.  I don't apologize for my short-comings when there is nothing to apologize for.  I find it hilarious that a thread that from the OP is somewhat for fun and serious, that the atheists are offended by the apparent parroting of atheist speak in things dealing with God.


But you ARE supposed to apologise for sin.  Or, at least be sorry for it.  So there is something to be sorry for.

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We must be willing to laugh at ourselves too.


Indeed.  But laughing at ourselves is a very different thing from laughing at the upset caused to others.  Especially publicly broadcasting that.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2015, 03:47:50 pm »

If we were to meet and be friends, you'd find me the same on this forum as I am in person.  I don't apologize for my short-comings when there is nothing to apologize for.  I find it hilarious that a thread that from the OP is somewhat for fun and serious, that the atheists are offended by the apparent parroting of atheist speak in things dealing with God.


But you ARE supposed to apologise for sin.  Or, at least be sorry for it.  So there is something to be sorry for.

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We must be willing to laugh at ourselves too.


Indeed.  But laughing at ourselves is a very different thing from laughing at the upset caused to others.  Especially publicly broadcasting that.

And again...I find no reason to be sorry for publicly broadcasting that one or more atheists were/are offended and/or upset at this thread where the mission is that atheists are arguing for the existence of potatoes.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2015, 03:55:26 pm »
Seriously. Was someone offended by this thread? Anyone who was is in serious need of a life.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2015, 04:01:25 pm »
Seriously. Was someone offended by this thread? Anyone who was is in serious need of a life.

Hence one reason I found it hilarious.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2015, 04:06:05 pm »
Seriously. Was someone offended by this thread? Anyone who was is in serious need of a life.

Hence one reason I found it hilarious.
Yeah. I can see why! It's okay for atheists to parody theism with the FSM, but not okay to parody atheism with non-existent potatoes. Go figure. Is it hypocrisy or a double-standard?
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2015, 04:33:07 pm »
The FSM isn't a parody of theism.  Also what bothers me is not the parody, but rather the smug and dismissive tone, and complete lack of tact offered.  I was taking the op seriously, but I guess a serious discussion is too much to ask for on here.....

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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2015, 04:40:31 pm »
Life is too important to be taken seriously, my friend.  ;D
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2015, 04:50:12 pm »
The FSM isn't a parody of theism.  Also what bothers me is not the parody, but rather the smug and dismissive tone, and complete lack of tact offered.  I was taking the op seriously, but I guess a serious discussion is too much to ask for on here.....

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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2015, 08:52:44 am »
The FSM isn't a parody of theism.  Also what bothers me is not the parody, but rather the smug and dismissive tone, and complete lack of tact offered.  I was taking the op seriously, but I guess a serious discussion is too much to ask for on here.....

No it's not too much to ask for.  My comment on the comedic value I found in this was simply an off-comment.  So Crash decided to throw the "That's not very Christian-like" comment out when he evidently completely fails to realize that Christians are not Christians because they are perfect, but because they are flawed.

Quite frankly, I find humor in a lot of what goes on here on RF.  I happened to voice it in a thread about the existence or non-existence of potatoes...and the atheists are doubly offended.  I'm not here to nurse the delicate egos.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2015, 10:18:47 am »

No it's not too much to ask for.  My comment on the comedic value I found in this was simply an off-comment.  So Crash decided to throw the "That's not very Christian-like" comment out when he evidently completely fails to realize that Christians are not Christians because they are perfect, but because they are flawed.


No I do not fail to realise that.  It's just that there is a HUGE difference between being not perfect, and openly publishing your flaws (non-apologetically) in a situation where you both represent Christ, and are actively reminded of him.

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Quite frankly, I find humor in a lot of what goes on here on RF.  I happened to voice it in a thread about the existence or non-existence of potatoes...and the atheists are doubly offended.  I'm not here to nurse the delicate egos.

No, but you should be here to do the work of Christ.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2015, 11:00:32 am »

No it's not too much to ask for.  My comment on the comedic value I found in this was simply an off-comment.  So Crash decided to throw the "That's not very Christian-like" comment out when he evidently completely fails to realize that Christians are not Christians because they are perfect, but because they are flawed.

No I do not fail to realise that.  It's just that there is a HUGE difference between being not perfect, and openly publishing your flaws (non-apologetically) in a situation where you both represent Christ, and are actively reminded of him.

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Quite frankly, I find humor in a lot of what goes on here on RF.  I happened to voice it in a thread about the existence or non-existence of potatoes...and the atheists are doubly offended.  I'm not here to nurse the delicate egos.

No, but you should be here to do the work of Christ.

I'm hardly here to do the work of Christ, as if this were my mission field.  I find atheists intriguing.  I find philosophy interesting...I find atheist arguments amusing and interesting...etc.

Try as you might, I don't feel any guilt for finding it hilarious that you're offended...as it seems you are REALLY offended, so much so you can't let something so simple, go.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2015, 11:02:31 am »
You should go to the library and add all the books about potatoes to the fiction section!! That'll convince all the potatoe believers!!
Saying you 'merely lack belief' in God while arguing for naturalism is the same as saying you 'don't have a political opinion' while praising a political party.

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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2015, 11:13:04 am »

I'm hardly here to do the work of Christ, as if this were my mission field.  I find atheists intriguing.  I find philosophy interesting...I find atheist arguments amusing and interesting...etc.

Try as you might, I don't feel any guilt for finding it hilarious that you're offended...as it seems you are REALLY offended, so much so you can't let something so simple, go.

I wasn't even slightly offended.  I find the complete lack of understanding displayed in this thread fairly comforting, if a little frustrating.

That doesn't mean I can't point out that revelling in the upset of others, and that doing so is unChristian.  Even if you do seem to have taken an "on the clock" approach to being a Christian.
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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2015, 11:13:55 am »
If I took you to the grocery store and picked up a potato off the shelf and showed it to you, would you then believe me ?  Or would you claim "that isn't a potato".

If the latter, which it seems many of you think accurately represents a skeptic (even though it doesn't), I would seek then to either define what the word potato meant to your satisfaction, or ask for your definition of a potato and then demonstrate how the thing that I just showed you accurately meets that definition.

If after that you still refused to accept that it was a potato, then I would question your sincerity.  After all, if we define anything, like X, and we say that X has properties X, Y and Z and then I show you something with properties X, Y  and Z and you still rejected it, then you apparently misunderstand the nature of descriptors, and at that point it becomes impossible to show you that anything at all exists, because you don't accept the idea of descriptive words.

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Re: Potatoes do not exist
« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2015, 12:02:37 pm »

I'm hardly here to do the work of Christ, as if this were my mission field.  I find atheists intriguing.  I find philosophy interesting...I find atheist arguments amusing and interesting...etc.

Try as you might, I don't feel any guilt for finding it hilarious that you're offended...as it seems you are REALLY offended, so much so you can't let something so simple, go.

I wasn't even slightly offended.  I find the complete lack of understanding displayed in this thread fairly comforting, if a little frustrating.

That doesn't mean I can't point out that revelling in the upset of others, and that doing so is unChristian.  Even if you do seem to have taken an "on the clock" approach to being a Christian.

Thou doth protest too much...

I'm still giggling.
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