This is a problem that faces all protestants, they don't believe in the infallibility of the Church
but would you call the Eastern Orthodox Church the one true church?
With all of this dissension and tribal protectionism in the Body of Christ, how do we obtain the John 17 unity that Jesus desires for us? Without that, the rest of the world will not know that God sent his son! (read John 17).My wife came from a strong RC background and this past weekend her mother sent her a video decrying Protestantism and she has been aggressively trying to persuade my wife that hell fire awaits for any who are Prots (my wife left the RC church last year). It's highly discouraging and even more so considering that only 2 of her 5 daughters actually attend church/mass at all. The 3 that don't are not a concern to her mother since they have been baptized Catholic and are safe to go to heaven in her opinion. One of the non-attending sisters approached me yesterday (my wife's mom has been discussing this with anyone who would listen) and told me not to pay attention to the rhetoric. Sadly, her mother's dogmatism and judgmental outlook has further soiled this non-attending sister even further as she sees the divisiveness as further evidence that the whole thing is 'bunk'. It is also driving my wife away and she is shocked at the level of judgment that is coming out of this particular RC Church that she grew up in. It is tribal, confrontational and not becoming to the Body.This whole thing saddens me and it is tough to not feel a high level of resentment toward my mother-in-law and the RC church in general (there is a bit of a campaign in the local area by the RC church to bring people back to the church - their tactic, apparently, is to send out proclamations of denominational superiority - it's not exactly achieving the intended purpose). BUT, I refuse to give in to this and will continue to seek unity amongst the denominations in spite of obstacles, pride and discouragement. This elitism is not just practiced by the local RC Church, it is also evident in several of the local churches who feel that their religion has it all figured out. "To be a Christian, join our factional tribe". Doesn't that sound attractive? That is the message that many denominations/churches send and what a contradiction to scripture that is. There are no denominations in the Gospel nor the Acts. Not one of the denominations that we call ourselves today is listed in the Bible. Why do we continue to act as if this is the case? This divisiveness has to stop or God will make it stop. I continue to pray for unity.
I agree with you, but do you promote that we not attend church, a church?
We have to kind of choose our preferred church. I don't agree 100% with everything Adventism believes, but I do tend to think it is closest to the truth I FIND.
I find the RC position on many things more and more agreeable. Likewise the EOs and Anglicans. But I'm not convinced that any of them are 'the one, true church'. My studies of church history just seem far too ... messy ... for that to be true of any institution. But, who knows, I'm really quite tempted to become RC or EO at the moment.
Jesus Prays for All Believers20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you[e] known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
I hope you're right, JFS. I don't want to be outside the true body of Christ.
Quote from: Questions11 on May 19, 2015, 09:29:50 amI hope you're right, JFS. I don't want to be outside the true body of Christ.The true body isn't in any one religion or denomination. The true body of Christ is spread out all over the world and is also a body of one...it is in our hearts.