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Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« on: June 02, 2016, 06:26:00 am »
www.gameknot.com

« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 09:37:39 am by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn base chess game?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2016, 09:37:15 am »
No one?

Turn based chess is also known as Online Correspondence Chess.
Each player gets from 1-14 days (we can do 2 or 3 days) to make a move, depending on the configured 'Time Per Move' for that game, but you can also catch your oponent online, in real time, and play several moves together as fast as you both can play them, This allows for a lot of flexibility in terms of when you make your moves.

The rules allow for the use of opening books, but not the use of chess engines. The difference is the former are tables of opening move theory, the later are actual applications that calculate the moves.

Players can chat online while playing of do it in silently, either way is fine.

On the site I play you can play for free.

Let me know if interested.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 12:03:29 pm by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2016, 09:43:15 am »
I had sort of quit, but, I got the chess bug back, just not that hard, this time around.

This was my last serious game there, a few days ago:


[Event "Let's play chess"]
[Site "http://gameknot.com/"]
[Date "2016.05.28"]
[Round "-"]
[White "ontologicalme"]
[Black "anpasan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "1928"]
[BlackElo "1882"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e6 7. f4 Be7 8. O-O O-O 9. a4 Qc7 10. Be3 Nbd7 11. a5 b5 12. axb6 e.p. Nxb6 13. Qd3 Bb7 14. Nb3 d5 15. e5 Nfd7 16. Na5 Nc5 17. Qd4 Bc8 18. b4 Ncd7 19. Ra3 f6 20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Nc4 22. Nxd5 exd5 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qxc4 Qxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxb4 26. Rb3 a5 27. Rxb4 1-0

It was a particularly satisfactory game. I don´t always play that well,  though it is many times about the other´s limitations that one´s strengths.

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 10:00:17 am »
This is a King´s pawn opening against a sicilian defense ( I don´t remember the variant name)

On move 6.Be2

This is sort of an style choice, since it leads to a more possitional less agresive game than usual. Other possible moves are 6. Bg5 or Bc4(not sure about this last one given the black pawn on a6).

6...,e6   I think the more ambitious move is ...,e5    an most sicilian players will play it, I used to shy away from it when using black, but, it seems to me the only for black to balance the game.

7. f4  honestly , I played this move because of my opening book indication, I would not have considered it, otherwise, because it looks like weakening the white king´s position, but it turns out to be a good move, white just needs to be ever careful of possible tactical strikes along the g1-a7 black diagonal and horses attack from f6 trough g4 to f2 or h2 or e3.

« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 10:28:55 am by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 10:11:53 am »
www.gameknot.com

Careful. . . I tried to sign in with facebook and then it asked me for my password and username.  When you sign in with facebook, twitter, or google. . .  it is not suppose to ask you for that information.  That's the entire point of signing in with a social media medium. . . you don't have to go through the trouble of creating a new username / password.

I don´t know about that, I created an account. I can tell you I know this site for more than a decade, I saw the owner start with one server in his house and buy his 1st replacement server for emergencies.

From time to time I buy a subscription to support the site. Never had any issues or problems or know about any either.


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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 10:27:04 am »
9.a4 Qc7 10. Be3 Nbd7 11. a5 b5 12. axb6 e.p. Nxb6 13. Qd3 Bb7

This sequence of moves  are  a bit confusing to me. The center looks dynamic enough to keep looking for options on the center, but,

9.a4      I guesss does some things for the game on the center, like protecting the Knight on c3 that protects in turn the pawn on e4

Also it stops any expansion ideas, by b5, on the queen side for black

9...,Qc7 is a very natural post for the queen to support the central pawns, and, later on puch on the c column operations




10. Be3     I find it hard not to play this move earlier, since that open diagonal makes me nervous, but, too early at times is not desireable.


10..., Nbd7    I found this move too passive, but, possibly due to a4 it is sort of required, I am unsure about it, I am under the impression that Knc6 posses more problems to solve for white, and, gives more possibilities for black counterplay.


a4 Qc7 10. Be3 Nbd7 11. a5 b5 12. axb6 e.p. Nxb6 13. Qd3 Bb7

11. a5 seems quite natural now, completely blocking b5 options (so, I thought : )  )

11..., b5    pushing for space for his pieces all the same.


12. axb6 e.p.     Let´s cut that ugly thing on b5 threatening my horsy.


12..., Nxb6     black starts freeing his pieces    (  : (   )



13. Qd3 I hated when I have to use my queen so exposed up the ranks in defensive operations. I need to cover c4 square and the e4 pawn, from the black freed pieces coming hard hitting the center squares.


13..., Bb7
There it is, black is pressuring white´s central pawns and squres and is finally fully developed, with a bit of a cramped position, but, with a lot of possibilities.

White is still playing to cramp black pieces but more humbly, now.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 10:29:26 am by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn base chess game?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2016, 10:36:53 am »
No one?

Too comb-plee-cah-doe for me.

I'm more of a Chutes and Ladders type...
People are amusing.

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2016, 10:46:47 am »
14. Nb3
Time for white for developing further a new phase of his plan and adapt to black´s advance
The horse is exchanging his theoretically beautifully centralized position on d4 for the theoretically not adviceable on the side position, on a5, yet, with prospects of exchanging itself for the dangerous bishop on b7.

or at least take away the white spaces for the Queen and other pieces, with some further threats.


14. Nb3 d5 15. e5 ...,

14. ..., d5
 I was afraid of this move, it is an strong move, black is putting it all out to white, I think the position is on razor´s edge now. But, at least I saw it comming, so my pieces were prepared, to the best of my understanding. This is not always played with the sicilian.


15. e5

 this took more calculation than usual, and, some strategic understanding, before I could decide to for it, anything else looses the small advantage white has, so far.


I am dreding 15..., Kne4 ,  it´s going to be an all out war, after it.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 10:50:09 am by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn base chess game?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2016, 11:13:08 am »
No one?

Too comb-plee-cah-doe for me.

I'm more of a Chutes and Ladders type...

Nah!

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2016, 11:30:27 am »
A modern type of chess:

http://www.openra.net/


"Classic strategy games, rebuilt for the modern era.

Open Source. Free. For all modern operating systems."



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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2016, 12:01:02 pm »
15. e5 Nfd7 16. Na5 Nc5 17. Qd4 Bc8 18. b4 Ncd7 19. Ra3 f6 20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Nc4 22. Nxd5 exd5 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qxc4 Qxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxb4 26. Rb3 a5 27. Rxb4


15. ..., Nfd7    uffffff!!!!!! black looses the opportunity to raise the bet to the top.

this is an impresicion. Black is still in the game, but white gets a bit of release from the mounting preasure.


I was planning to pay 15..., Nd4   16. Na5     the computarized analysis of the site recomended 16.Bd4 , I did saw this last option, after a lot of searching but it looked to me toothless.

The problem with 15...,Nd4 is that the night can not be taken with out  opening lines onto white´s position, and more specifically leaving the white queen exposed to any kind of attacks and little place to run to.

16.Na5     the night has arrived from his long trip to do an important profilactic function.



16. ...,Nc5     black goes back to the attack , I had to forsee this before I played  15. e5 to make sure the queen had a good place to go.


17. Qd4    White is playing the tempos, the   threatening move ...,Nd4 is back on the table and it is dangerous in combination with the g1-a7 open diagonal to the white king, any tactial oversight will have white going down for good.


17..., Bc8   the computerized analysis of the site did not find fault on this move, I guess the bishop is too important to let it go. but, it definitely puts black again on somewhat passive situation, in my mind.

now the white squares are particularly weak

18. b4   

An ugly looking move, that sort of criples white´s pawn structure, but, I want to try to take advantage of the temporary passiveness of the black pieces.



15. e5 Nfd7 16. Na5 Nc5 17. Qd4 Bc8 18. b4 Ncd7 19. Ra3 f6 20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Nc4 22. Nxd5 exd5 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qxc4 Qxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxb4 26. Rb3 a5 27. Rxb4


18..., Ncd7   


Now black´s possition it really passive and the white square´s are particularly weak, good precise play should solve black pieces, but, this is when usually mistakes happen.

19. Ra3

covering the night on c3 and the weakeness left by 18. b4

Here, I am unsure what´s next , but,  I smell blood.




19..., f6


Is it my blood?? I did not expect this, as obvious as it was, now I am worried, that my impression of passiveness of the black pieces was off.



20. Rfa1     

This active looking move is an impresicion and a weak one at that. worried about the white center falling after 19...,f6   I rush to look for attacking chances where all of my pieces are, but, in a total inefficient way, that rook  is just not doing anything there.



The right move was 20. Bg4   attacking black´s weaken white squares, and white has a clear advantage, but, I simply, totally missed it.

I new Black´s white squares were not in good shape, but, 19...,f6 just scared me, too much, to see clear what I should do.


15. e5 Nfd7 16. Na5 Nc5 17. Qd4 Bc8 18. b4 Ncd7 19. Ra3 f6 20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Nc4 22. Nxd5 exd5 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qxc4 Qxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxb4 26. Rb3 a5 27. Rxb4


20. ...,fxe5    black is coming with bad intentions


21. fxe5

what else?


15. e5 Nfd7 16. Na5 Nc5 17. Qd4 Bc8 18. b4 Ncd7 19. Ra3 f6 20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Nc4 22. Nxd5 exd5 23. Qxd5+ Kh8 24. Qxc4 Qxc4 25. Nxc4 Bxb4 26. Rb3 a5 27. Rxb4


22....Nc4 ??   (mistake!!)

and black falters again, but big time

I saw the move, and, alarms were going off , but I did not see the next move after some secons of frantic pause.

is it my blood or is it his?




22. Nxd5     

Yes!! I see now the tactical blow on the white squares, black needed to be more precise, his agresively 21...,Nc4 is just drops all the white squares for white to take advantage of them.



22. ...,exd5   

only one option

23 Qxd5+  (check)

White brakes in black´s positon with a tempo gaining check, enough tempo gain to recover his temporarilly sacrificed piece and then some


23..., Kh8

No real options for black



24. Qxc4

white is just enjoying his advantage


24. ..., Qxc4   

black is trying to get back into the game by gaining the initiative and the tempos.




25. Nxc4

needed

25..., Bxb4

Black doing his best to recover

26. Rb3

defending, it´s really the only move, but, it sets a little trap, either black gives back the initiative or looses a piece.


26..., a5   ??
But the pressure is too much, black thinks he is back into the game and with some control of the position , even if badly hurt, but this is just another blunder, a simple tactical oversight, caused by the pressure on his position and the need to counter white´s advantage.


27.Rxb4 more material gain and white is in control


Black quits.





« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 12:10:14 pm by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2016, 12:02:52 pm »
A modern type of chess:

http://www.openra.net/


"Classic strategy games, rebuilt for the modern era.

Open Source. Free. For all modern operating systems."

It reminds me of Go.

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2016, 01:50:13 pm »
I was wondering about 17..., Bc8   . The computarized post game analysis on the site did not fault it, though, I thought it was awfully passive.

This is from the post game anaysis on the site:
20. Rfa1 fxe5 21. fxe5 Rb8 22. Rb3 Nxe5 23. b5 Nec4 24. Nxc4 dxc4 25. Rb2 e5 26. Qd2 Rd8 27. Qc1 axb5 28. Rxb5

After my bad move 20.Rfa1 , the idea of 17...,Bc8 becomes a little clearer. White´s center will fall, living at least one central black pawn, and, no white one.

Furthermore, with the center, basically wide open the  pair of bishops become really important, thus, it would have been bad for black to have exchanged them for white´s knights.  with with 19...,f6 20.Rfa1 the initiative was blacks, and he was potentially to win some small material advantage with out conceding the pair of bishops that would be needd on the open center ending.


That´s the kind of thing mediocre players like me can only realize in hindsight with the help of  computers, and almost never during an actual game.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 02:05:18 pm by ontologicalme »

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2016, 04:34:14 pm »
www.gameknot.com

I'll play a game with you. Are you signed up?

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Re: Anyone up to for a turn based chess game?
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2016, 04:57:31 pm »