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kravarnik

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Re: The Irony of the Social Justice War
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2020, 09:56:40 am »
You make no sense. So you’re saying The “free” education my kid has now is a slippery slope to prison? Are you saying my single payer Medicare leads to a gulag if I refuse to use it for a broken arm? Anticommunist rants may work to a MAGA crowd, but outside of that one needs to be more coherent.

It's kind of obvious the point I made in regards to free education was within the reality of Proletarian dictatorship: that is, after you literally have Proletarian dictatorship in place. Not prior to this, where you still have free democratic society, or free subjects of the Monarch....
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Re: The Irony of the Social Justice War
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2020, 10:00:54 am »
When condemning Marxist "dictatorship" has kravarnik read and understood his own quote:

"that this dictatorship, itself, constitutes no more than a transition to the abolition of all classes and to a classless society" ?

Dude, Marx used the Paris commune as an example of good Proletarian dictatorship. Do you know what the Paris commune did?

It established persecution upon the religious - you guessed it, our Catholic brethren had it very nice and dandy back then! Installed national guard, or alternatively "militia" to police everything and everyone. Establish policy where anti-socialistic/communistic media is banned, or any such public displays are banned - that is censorship.


I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. It seems you've been buying the "sugar" part of Marxism, but cannot be bothered to look at it fully, both good and bad.


You're praising a system that persecuted your Christian brethren. For crying out loud, get real mate. A Christian Marxist socialist/communist is the biggest oxymoron in existence.


You think this "transition to a classless society" was singing songs together; convincing non-communist with great patience, love and care; doing all that is possible to preserve all people and their authentic identity, regardless if it goes against Proletarian goals? Get real dude. You live in a bubble.
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Re: The Irony of the Social Justice War
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2020, 04:12:04 pm »
So rather than admit you were refuted by your own quote you divert.

Well of course I don't approve of Marx's atheism (though he refers to  God more than you would expect in his writings)

But note that this is in the political threads section!

Marx has been accused of being too utopian so let's consider a comparison with the RCC sainted Sir Thomas More who wrote a book called Utopia

More had his own personal stocks for people he regarded as heretics and approved of the use of the rack and burning people to death - even stamping on the ashes of Thomas Bayfield.

Who did Marx ever torture with the rack or anything similar (cue diversion to Stalinism - except we're talking about Marx!)

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Re: The Irony of the Social Justice War
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2020, 03:58:16 pm »
You make no sense. So you’re saying The “free” education my kid has now is a slippery slope to prison? Are you saying my single payer Medicare leads to a gulag if I refuse to use it for a broken arm? Anticommunist rants may work to a MAGA crowd, but outside of that one needs to be more coherent.

It's kind of obvious the point I made in regards to free education was within the reality of Proletarian dictatorship: that is, after you literally have Proletarian dictatorship in place. Not prior to this, where you still have free democratic society, or free subjects of the Monarch....

So any society that fulfills the need for universal education has that in its favor.
Atheism, in the sense now generally admitted to be alone appropriate, may be of three species,- namely, denial of the existence of the Divine, denial the Divine has been shown to exist, and denial that it can be known that the Divine exists. - Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1901 Edition

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Re: The Irony of the Social Justice War
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2020, 03:59:23 pm »
One way to assess these institutions is by way of a "scorecard," whereby people are given merit points based on their sex and color, and that these points are meant to balance things out in order to give everybody an equal opportunity. If we're using a 5-point scale, then we have to assume that a typical white male begins life with 1 point, whereas a woman of color begins life with 5 points. Depending on the wealth of the family you're born into, you may get deductions.

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Let me explain… we have no control over where and when we are born, or which families we are born into. And yet, these factors tend to influence our lives in pretty dramatic ways.

Yeah, like since I'm a white straight male Christian American your proposed scorecard will affect my life in some pretty dramatic ways. How is that fair to me?