Harvey, remind me, what denomination are you? (Or, what do you come closest to on doctrinal issues)
Okay, the Reformation is now 500+ years old and many of the doctrines that Luther posted on the church door are no longer an issue like they once were. Today the real controversy of the Church is between the conservatives and liberals. Why not end the divisions and like the NBA we reorganize. The churches should be under two churches: the Conservative Catholic Church and the Liberal Catholic Church? Let's vote and get this done.
Do you believe in transubstantiation, Harvey?
Quote from: belorg on August 01, 2020, 05:29:52 amDo you believe in transubstantiation, Harvey?Do all Catholics believe that? I guess the RCC's doctrinal insistance or individual Protestant doctrinal insistance brings us back up to 500 years of the things that separate one denomination from another. Or, we might deal with the reality that even in the RCC (or individual Protestant denominations) that there are high level people in those churches who don't agree with the stated doctrines of that church. So, maybe it's time to focus on core Christian beliefs that existed early in the first four centuries and not the controversies that followed. If that can't happen then of course churches will go empty as the world becomes more secular.
Why deny it?
Quote from: Fred on August 01, 2020, 10:30:38 amWhy deny it? I don't know what it means.
Yeah, I don't really get that doctrine.
Quote from: Harvey on August 01, 2020, 11:18:18 amQuote from: Fred on August 01, 2020, 10:30:38 amWhy deny it? I don't know what it means.Read this article from the Catholic Encyclopedia. If you don't buy it, then your proposal to consolidate can't get off the ground. On the other hand, if it convinces you - you should join the Catholic Church (you have to pass a test, btw) and start working to convert your erstwhile brethren.