If you can help the people (not necessarily the rulers) that you serve. Thanks for the chat Harvey, it obviously ran its course.
Okay. But I would be very upset at Dr. Fauci if he thought as you did. As a doctor of public health I believe he has important responsibilities to not only give truthful health advice but to notify us if the administration he works for is endangering public health.
He has done so often, just not in total defiance of Trump as he seems to understand the political nuances that are at play. I already linked two prominent examples and referred to a third early on. Here is another, hot off the press. In his words:"The data speak for themselves - we had a superspreader event in the White House, and it was in a situation where people were crowded together and were not wearing masks."I also linked his own explanation for how he sees his role. I have absolutely no idea why you refuse to grasp the situation and persist with this line of inquiry. We already ended our actual discussion on the previous page.
Fauci denied that he ever heard the president “distort” the threat of the coronavirus and maintained that Trump’s presentations to the public were largely in line with discussions he’d had with medical experts. When asked whether he ever felt Trump was downplaying the severity of the coronavirus, Fauci said no.
Oh please.. It's obvious why he was saying what he did..context please..he even explained it himself and heck, I even linked his explanation..quote mining much nowadays..?
When asked whether he ever felt Trump was downplaying the severity of the coronavirus, Fauci said no.
"The data speak for themselves - we had a superspreader event in the White House, and it was in a situation where people were crowded together and were not wearing masks."
On "The Daily Briefing," host John Roberts asked Fauci if he thought Trump had played down the threat of the virus."No, I didn't," Fauci responded. "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. I mean in my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had. We related that to him. And when he would go out, I'd hear him discussing the same sort of things. He would often say, 'We just got through with a briefing with the group from the task force,' and would talk about it. So it may have happened, but I have not seen that kind of distortion."...Roberts also asked Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whether Trump broke with his advisers in trying to downplay the virus. "You were there through that whole thing," Roberts said. "Was that the playbook or was that the president just going his own direction?""I don't think so, John," Fauci responded. "I don't recall anything different than in our discussions that we had with the president that he said things quite similar publicly."...(Fauci in reference to Woodward's book): "I didn't really go over any of the text since it just came out," Fauci told Roberts. "But you know, in my discussions and the discussions of other task force members with the president, we're talking about the reality of what was going on."And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," he went on. "I may not be tuned in to the right thing that they're talking about. But, I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him, and what he came out publicly and said." "If you notice, it was [reported that] others have said [I said] that. So, you know, you should ask others. I don't recall that at all," he said. "So I mean ... according to what I saw in the newspapers, it says 'and others have said that.' So you know, I don't really want to get involved in the kind of stuff that is very distracting to the kind of things that I'm trying to do and that we're all trying to do with this outbreak."
Your naivete is showing Harvey. Educate yourself on the effects that being in the orbit of people with narcissistic personality disorder has on people. You are expecting superhuman behavior from Fauci. FWIW, Fauci is doing better than most people in Trump's orbit.
In my nearly five decades of public service, I have never publicly endorsed any political candidate. The comments attributed to me without my permission in the GOP campaign ad were taken out of context from a broad statement I made months ago about the efforts of federal public health officials,"
Because I see clearly on this issue and not on the extremes Iike you and Mammal I'm more likely to be less naive then either of you.
Right, you see the medical issues more clearly than the editors of the New England Journal of Medicine as well, I suppose.
Quote from: wonderer on October 11, 2020, 07:55:32 pmRight, you see the medical issues more clearly than the editors of the New England Journal of Medicine as well, I suppose.Seriously?