I know I don't care to try to "terraform" an alien culture into one resembling my own, nor do I care to paternally feel I have the need to interfere with another culture outside the US. If there are dangerous elements in that country and dangerous to the US, then we can simply block any movement from these countries into our own until they adopt and prove they've internalized the values of the west.
Afghanistan allows terrorists a potential base to train and launch operations in the homeland like 9/11. Some nation building is required to at least prevent a haven for terrorists.
One of the many things that Democrats and never-Trump Republicans seem to be able to agree on is that endless, undeclared wars--excuse me, overseas contingency operations--are good foreign policy.
That sounds sensible. Do you think Trump is being sensible about Afghanistan?
Quote from: Ben Douglas on November 30, 2020, 10:17:51 amOne of the many things that Democrats and never-Trump Republicans seem to be able to agree on is that endless, undeclared wars--excuse me, overseas contingency operations--are good foreign policy.Do you think it wise to depart Afghanistan, given their history of training terrorists? Obama was criticized for abandoning Iraq, which apparently precipitated the rise of ISIS.
Far more terrorists have been created as a result of our interventions than killed. Our boys are risking their lives protecting opium fields and pedo warlords.
Quote from: Ben Douglas on December 01, 2020, 10:59:41 amFar more terrorists have been created as a result of our interventions than killed. Our boys are risking their lives protecting opium fields and pedo warlords.Interventions are certainly the root of all hatred of America, but by now that's history. Belated isolationism isn't suddenly going to generate love for America. There is clearly risk if we depart Afghanistan, just like there was risk when we departed Iraq - and we see how that worked out.
The cost of continued presence, financially and in ill-will generated, may exceed the cost of risking another terrorist attack. Risk Managers and economists have equations for this sort of a thing. I don't know the answer, but I know the main problem (as with COVID or any number of issues now) is people monomaniacally obsessed with the cost of withdrawing or staying to the exclusion of the other. There's also opportunity cost to consider. Imagine what we could do with the trillions we've poured into putting out fires that we either set or whose flames we fanned.
I disagree. I think these problems are inherent in democratic politics and the solution lies with resolution via non-democratic means.