For some thinkers the belief that 'number' could express something of the nature of the world led numbers to be viewed merely as symbols for other kinds of entity. Johannes Kepler (1571-1630),to take a prominent example, rejected this numerology. . . [h]e repudiated numerology when the signification alloted to numbers was merely contingent upon a numerologist's whim because he believed that the answer to numerological questions had to derive from the formal structure of mathematics itself. Believing that mathematics was 'co-eternal' with the mind of God' and that geometry 'provided God with a model for the Creation'. . . Idiosyncratic as this may seem, it was exactly the same belief in the mathematical structure of the world which enabled Kepler to make his discovery that planetary orbits are elliptical rather than circular. Kepler continued to struggle with Tycho Brahe's Mars data for eight years because of his paramount commitment to Neoplatonic and magical belief that mathematics was not merely a convenient tool for 'saving the phenomena' but actually revealed the way things are. . . . [s ]uch views of mathematics and its applicability to an understanding of mathematics and its applicability to an understanding of the natural world can be traced back at least as far as Roger Bacon. ("Companion to the History of Modern Science", edited by RC Colby, GN Cantor, JRR Christie and MJS Hodge, pp. 592-593)
Should atheists pay royalties for Newton's laws? That could get expensive.
Quote from: Harvey on July 21, 2021, 09:54:24 pmShould atheists pay royalties for Newton's laws? That could get expensive.Non-Arian Christians would need to pay as well,Actually, trinitarians should pay extra for understanding gravity, due to their long persecution of Arians like Newton, and Jews like Einstein.
Harvey, ever heard of Anaxagoras, Pitagoras, Euclides, Aristotle, Erasthothenes etc.? For the dudes who invented mathematics, early Christians were 'atheists'. If you told them that you somehow 'share' their religious beliefs, they would find the idea laughable. So, are you ready to pay up?It never fails to amuse me how often 'we, Christians' changes into 'we, very generic theists' when you want to take credit for something.
You're going back too far. Everyone knows that everyone owes Greece a lot of money, but we also owe China, Iraq, and Egypt a great deal too.
Yes, any such appropriation is silly.
I wouldn't say it's silly to credit people who's descendants are sometimes not seen with the respect once given to their ancestors.
Individuals deserve credit for the contributions they make. Their descendants can take pride in their ancestors, but they do not deserve credit. That sort of reasoning is chauvinistic.
It's tongue and cheek but I'm sure glad I don't have to pay those royalties that atheists ought to pay. #jk
Isn't the saying 'tongue in cheek'? Lol