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#867 “Claims Are Not Evidence”

December 24, 2023
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Dear Dr. Craig,

Thank you for your ministry and all you do for the gospel!  Recently I have been watching popular atheist Matt Dillahunty debate Christians online.  I believe he does not want to engage with the evidence for the resurrection so he recites the mantra that "the claims [of the apostles/NT writers about Jesus' resurrection] are not evidence."  I have seen several Christian apologists struggle with his statement, probably because they lack the philosophical background to proof Dilllahunty wrong.  I have watched several of your debates and I'm yet to see your opponents come up with this objection. 

Thank you and have a wonderful Christmas!

Tony

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The problem with these sorts of slogans, which dominate popular culture, is that they are often an excuse for intellectual laziness, a refusal to grapple with the really difficult issues. What is perhaps most disturbing about such sloganeering is that it is symptomatic of a lack of intellectual curiosity on the part of the sloganeer, a lack of interest in important questions that merit serious reflection.

As a first step in dealing with such slogans, it’s often useful to ask what would be the result if the slogans were applied to themselves. What you often find is that many of these generalizations turn out to be self-defeating. For example, “There are no objective truths,” or “Knowledge is impossible.” In the same way, the generalization, “Claims are not evidence” seems to be self-defeating. Just ask yourself, is the claim

C. Claims are not evidence.

itself not evidence? If it’s not, then it has no evidential value and so doesn’t prove anything. If the sloganeer says that (C) is not a claim, then we can simply ask him, “Didn’t you claim that claims are not evidence?” If he’s honest, he’ll reply, “Yes, that was my claim.” (Of course, if he’s not claiming that, then there’s nothing to refute and no reason to pay him any attention.) But if claims are not evidence, then his claim is not evidence of anything either.

Moreover, the words used in (C) are undefined and, hence, ambiguous. What is a “claim”? A claim, as I understand the word, is an assertion of some alleged fact. So, for some person S and proposition p, a claim has the following form:

C*. S claims that p.

If our sloganeer has some other understanding of what a claim is, then he owes us an account. Assuming that (C*) captures what it is to make a claim, the slogan seems to say that S’s claiming that p is not evidence that p is true.

So what, then, is “evidence”? As I understand the word, if something increases the probability that p is true, then it counts as evidence for p. That’s the way the word is normally used: if a hypothesis H is more probable given some putative fact F than it would have been without it, then F counts as evidence for H. Notice that the evidence needn’t prove H to be true or render H certain; in order to count as evidence for H, F just needs to increase the probability of H. Again, if our sloganeer has some other understanding of what evidence is, then he owes us an account.

So now we ask, if S claims that p, can that be evidence that p? If our sloganeer had merely said that “Claims are not always evidence,” or that “Some claims are not evidence,” then his slogan would be unobjectionable. But is it the case that if S claims that p, that is never evidence that p? The problem with such a sweeping generalization is that it’s easy to think of counterexamples.

Imagine a Union troop commander during the American Civil War, who is approached by a man coming from the front lines, who tells him breathlessly, “The Rebs have broken through the lines! We’re about to be overrun!” It would be a dereliction of duty and perhaps even suicidal, both for himself and his men, if he were to reply, “That’s just your claim!” and go on as normal. The man’s report would obviously be taken seriously as evidence of what he said.

Or think of a patient who goes to see his doctor and says, “Doc, I feel sick all over; my body aches; and I’ve got a splitting headache.” Would the doctor say, “So you claim! That’s not evidence!” Of course not! He would be guilty of malpractice if he said such a thing! In fact, one doctor told me that when patients come into his clinic he learns more about what ails them from their descriptions of their symptoms than from any tests he might run at the time.

Or consider testimony. Testimonial evidence is admitted in every court of law. Yes, it is often unreliable (hence, the benefit of multiple confirming witnesses), but to refuse to admit testimony into court on the grounds that “Claims are not evidence!” would not only overturn our system of justice, but would make life itself impossible, since, as epistemologists realize, a great deal, if not most of what we believe, is based on the evidence of testimony.

So now apply this to the study of history. One of the great challenges for the historian is that the objects of his study, namely, the people and events of the past, no longer exist and so can be only indirectly investigated. He will be largely dependent upon the written records of the past. It would be foolish of him to say, “These are just claims, and claims are not evidence!” True, sometimes the historian can be aided in his task through archaeological remains of the past, but for the most part he will be dependent upon testimony. He will carefully weigh that testimony to determine its credibility. Is the author normally reliable in other cases? Was the author in a position to know? Did he have a motivation for misrepresenting the facts? How close was he to the events he relates? Answering these questions can be difficult and requires what has been called “the historian’s craft.” But clearly the study of history would be destroyed if we just dismissed all past claims as “not evidence.”

Let’s take a specific example. In his The Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus, a first-century Jewish historian, records this fascinating story concerning Pontius Pilate, the Roman procurator of Judea who, according to the gospels, condemned Jesus to crucifixion:

PILATE, the procurator of Judea, removed the army from Caesarea to Jerusalem: to take their winter quarters there; in order to abolish the Jewish laws. So he introduced Caesar’s effigies, which were upon the ensigns, and brought them into the city: whereas our law forbids us the very making of images. On which account the former procurators were wont to make their entry into the city with such ensigns as had not those ornaments. Pilate was the first who brought those images to Jerusalem, and set them up there. Which was done without the knowledge of the people; because it was done in the night time. But as soon as they knew it, they came in multitudes to Caesarea, and interceded with Pilate many days, that he would remove the images. And when he would not grant their requests, because this would tend to the injury of Caesar; while yet they persevered in their request; on the sixth day he ordered his soldiers to have their weapons privately; while he came and sat upon his judgment seat. Which seat was so prepared, in the open place of the city, that it concealed the army that lay ready to oppress them. And when the Jews petitioned him again, he gave a signal to the soldiers to encompass them round; and threatened that their punishment should be no less than immediate death, unless they would leave off disturbing him, and go their ways home. But they threw themselves upon the ground, and laid their necks bare, and said they would take their death very willingly, rather than the wisdom of their laws should be transgressed. Upon which Pilate was deeply affected with their firm resolution to keep their laws inviolable: and presently commanded the images to be carried back from Jerusalem to Caesarea (Ant. XVII.3.1).

Isn’t that an amazing story? So far as I know, this incident is not related by any other ancient author. So do historians react to Josephus’ claim that such a confrontation between Pilate and the Jewish population in Caesarea really happened by saying, “Claims are not evidence!” Not at all! Historians accept the historicity of this incident on the basis of Josephus’ testimony.

Now turn to the New Testament claims concerning the fate of Jesus of Nazareth. The wide majority of New Testament historians believe on the basis of the gospels’ testimony (i) that Jesus of Nazareth died of crucifixion on Friday during the Passover feast in Jerusalem; (ii) that he was properly interred in a tomb; (iii) that a group of his female followers discovered his tomb empty on the first day of the week following his crucifixion; (iv) that various individuals and groups of people experienced post-mortem appearances of Jesus; and (v) that the earliest disciples suddenly and sincerely came to believe that God had raised Jesus from the dead, despite every predisposition to the contrary. These facts form the evidential base for the inference to Jesus’ resurrection.

Now if the septic says, “Those are just claims! Claims are not evidence!”, then we need to patiently explain to him why scholars think these claims are true. Take, for example, fact (iii), the discovery of Jesus’ empty tomb. Here is just some of the evidence in support of that claim:

1. The empty tomb story is part of the early passion source used by Mark. Mark’s passion source did not end in death and defeat with the crucifixion, but with the empty tomb story, which is grammatically of one piece with the burial story.

2. The old tradition cited by Paul in I Cor. 15.3-5 implies the fact of the empty tomb. For any first century Jew, to say that of a dead man “that he was buried and that he was raised” is to imply that a vacant grave was left behind. Moreover, the expression “on the third day” probably derives from the women’s visit to the tomb on the third day, in Jewish reckoning, after the crucifixion. The four-line tradition cited by Paul summarizes both the gospel accounts and the early apostolic preaching (Acts 13. 28-31); significantly, the third line of the tradition corresponds to the empty tomb story.

3. Mark’s empty tomb story is simple and lacks signs of theological reflection and legendary embellishment. All one has to do to appreciate this point is to compare Mark’s account with the wild legendary stories found in the second-century apocryphal gospels, in which Jesus is seen coming out of the tomb with his head reaching up above the clouds and followed by a talking cross!

4. The fact that women’s testimony was discounted in first century Palestine counts in favor of the women’s role in discovering the empty tomb. According to Josephus, the testimony of women was regarded as so worthless that it could not even be admitted into a Jewish court of law. Any later legendary story would certainly have made male disciples discover the empty tomb.

5. The earliest Jewish allegation that the disciples had stolen Jesus’ body (Matt. 28.15) shows that the body was in fact missing from the tomb. The earliest Jewish response to the disciples’ proclamation, “He is risen from the dead!” was not to point to his occupied tomb and to laugh them off as fanatics, but to claim that they had taken away Jesus’ body. Thus, we have evidence of the empty tomb from the very opponents of the early Christians.

If at this point the sloganeer repeats, “Those are just claims, and claims are not evidence!”, then we can explain to him why historians are convinced that these further claims are factual. For example, with respect to (1) we can explain that most scholars believe that Mark was written prior to the other gospels and that his passion narrative is based upon an even earlier source, which reaches back very close to the events themselves, thereby increasing its credibility. If he says again, “Those are just claims, and claims are not evidence!”, then we can explain to him the evidence for Matthean and Lukan dependence on Mark and for the linguistic evidence for a pre-Markan running narrative of Jesus’ passion. And so on and so on! Like the child’s question, “Why?” this sort of inquiry can go on endlessly, but in actual practice historians soon reach a bedrock of generally accepted facts that can safely be assumed.

So, in conclusion, it quickly becomes evident that the problem here is not a lack of evidence but, as you discerned, a refusal to engage with the evidence on the part of the sloganeer. It’s no wonder, then, that this self-defeating slogan never comes up in any of my debates with professional New Testament scholars!

- William Lane Craig