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#868 Reading the Mind off the Brain

December 31, 2023
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Hello Dr. Craig, I'm a recent viewer of your work who's been a long time skeptic and nonbeliever since I was a teenage kid (at 28 I suppose I'm only slightly less of a kid).

I recently began reading a lot about consciousness and the soul, my position having been one of materialism/physicalism since long before I knew what the words meant, though reading some of Richard Swinburne's work and seeing your Defenders series has made me seriously doubt materialism for the first time.

Articles in the last couple years have talked about experiments in neural decoding, what I've seen described as a kind of AI facilitated mind-reading. One study seemed to be able to AI to produce images that subjects were thinking about based on brain scans. I'm very new to this subject, but I feel as though this is a stumbling block to the idea of our conscious experience being something immaterial that we have privileged access to. Materialism would certainly predict that what we see in our mind's eye should be reducible to physical explanation and accessible from the outside. How does this mesh with dualist conceptions of the relationship between the mind and the physical world?

This isn't entirely new research, but I write this question because I've felt myself coming around to notions of an immaterial soul and the theological implications that it has, but this has become an issue for me. I'm curious what thoughts you may have on the subject.

Richard

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It’s so interesting that your reflections on the nature of consciousness should lead you to question your belief in materialism, Richard, and perhaps eventually lead you to embrace the reality of the immaterial soul and the existence of God, the Ultimate Mind.

The mystery of consciousness is an unsolved enigma for materialism. Jerry Fodor remarks, “Nobody has the slightest idea how anything material could be conscious. Nobody even knows what it would be like to have the slightest idea about how anything material could be conscious. So much for the philosophy of consciousness.”[1] One thinks as well of Daniel Dennett’s oft-quoted crack, “The trouble with brains, it seems, is it when you look in them, you discover that there’s nobody home.[2]

Eliminative and reductive materialism are increasingly unpopular views.[3] The assertion of eliminative materialists that we have no conscious states is so contrary to experience as to be absurd. The claim of reductive materialists that states of consciousness are identical to brain states is not much better. For the reduction of conscious states to brain states cannot do justice to the inherent uniqueness of our states of consciousness. My colleague J. P. Moreland, who has spent most of his life studying mind/brain problems, draws our attention to three distinctive features of consciousness:

(1) Conscious states are characterized by a raw feel or what-it-is-like to be in that state (these are called qualia).

(2) Conscious states are characterized by subjectivity in that

(i) conscious states are direct accessible to the subject of consciousness,

(ii) conscious states exhibit incorrigibility for the subject of consciousness, and

(iii) conscious states are private for the subject of consciousness.

(3) Conscious states are characterized by a point of view unique to their subject.[4]

Physical states are not characterized by this sort of subjectivity but can be described only objectively. There are no qualia associated with being a neuron or a synaptic firing, brain states are publicly available states and are not directly accessible or incorrigibly known, and brain states have no point of view. Considerations like these rightly lead Rutgers University philosopher Dean Zimmerman to confess that he finds property dualism—the thesis that the mental properties of persons are distinct from their physical properties— “utterly compelling,” independently of any reason to accept a dualism of soul and body.[5]

It seems to me, moreover, that even non-reductive materialists ought to be very discomfited by the attribution of such states of consciousness to the brain. Zimmerman explains that non-reductive materialists believe that the mental and physical attributes of persons are independent in the way that color and shape are; despite being distinct properties, they are attributes of a single thing consisting entirely of ordinary matter—in our case, a human body or brain.[6] But it seems like a category mistake to ascribe mental properties to the brain. The brain is not jubilant, the brain is not embarrassed, the brain is not afraid, the brain is not in pain, even though the brain is involved in the neural circuitry that gives us such experiences. Neither does the brain have a subjective perspective or direct access to itself that no one else has. Thus non-reductive materialism no more succeeds in offering a plausible account of the subject of consciousness than eliminativism or reductive materialism.

Which brings us to your question: what about studies able to discern what “subjects were thinking about based on brain scans”? So-called “localization studies” map mental states to various regions or structures of the brain. If a researcher could tell what a person is thinking from such a third-person description of the state of the brain, would that imply that it is the brain itself, not the soul, which is the bearer of these mental states? Not at all, for such experiments would demonstrate at most correlations between states of the soul and states of the brain. This is hardly news! Stephen Evans points out,

We did not need neurophysiology to come to know that a person whose head is bashed in with a club quickly loses his or her ability to think or have any conscious processes. Why should we not think of neurophysiological findings as giving us detailed, precise knowledge of something that human beings have always known, or at least could have known, which is that the mind (at least in this mortal life) requires and depends on a functioning brain? We now know a lot more than we used to know about precisely how the mind depends on the body. However, that the mind depends on the body, at least prior to death, is surely not something discovered in the 20th century.[7]

Evans’ remarks bring to mind the illustration of dualism-interactionism offered by Sir John Eccles, the Nobel prize-winning neurologist: just as a pianist uses a piano as an instrument to make music, so the mind uses the brain as an instrument for thought. If the piano is damaged or out of tune, the pianist, despite his ability as a musician, will not be able to produce beautiful music; and if the brain is damaged in some way, the mind’s ability to think will be similarly impaired.[8]

Nancey Murphy, herself a non-reductive materialist, admits, “it is important to note that this evidence will never amount to proof: it will always be possible for the dualist to claim that these functions belong to the mind, and that mental events are merely correlated with events and particular regions of the brain.”[9] Even if a scientist could tell what someone is thinking by scanning his brain, the researcher would not have the qualia of the experience or immediate access to those conscious states that the patient does—in fact, in order to know whether his scans were correct, he would have to ask the patient for his first-person report!

If you’re interested in pursuing these questions further, Richard, let me commend to you J. P. Moreland’s Consciousness and the Existence of God (New York: Routledge, 2008), or his chapters on the mind/body dualism in our Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview.


[1] “The Big Idea: Can There Be a Science of Mind?” Times Literary Supplement (July 3, 1992), p. 5.

[2] Daniel Dennett, Consciousness Explained (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co., 1991), p. 29.

[3] The difference between these two views is that whereas reductive materialists hold that mental states are identical to brain states, eliminative materialists deny that there are any mental states to be identical with.

[4] J. P. Moreland and William Lane Craig, Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview, 2nd rev. ed. (Downers Grove, Ill.: IVP, 2017), pp. 214-15; cf. Moreland’s critique of specific versions of eliminative and reductive physicalism (pp. 231-43).

[5] Dean Zimmerman, “Three Introductory Questions,” in Persons: Human and Divine, ed. Peter van Inwagen and Dean Zimmerman (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 2007), p. 14.

[6] Zimmerman, “Three Introductory Questions,” p. 17.

[7] C. Stephen Evans, “Separable Souls: Dualism, Selfhood, and the Possibility of Life after Death,” Christian Scholars Review 34 (2005): 333-34.

[8] I heard Eccles offer this illustration in his presentation at the World Congress on Philosophy in Düsseldorf in 1978.

[9] Nancey Murphy, “Human Nature: Historical, Scientific and Religious Issues,” in Whatever Happened to the Soul?, ed. Warren S. Brown, Nancey Murphy, and H. Newton Malony (Minneapolis: Fortress, 1998), p. 13. Goetz and Taliaferro are baffled by Murphy’s admission: “one cannot help but be perplexed by Murphy’s concession that, even in the face of localization studies, it will always be possible for the dualist to claim that mental functions belong to the soul, and that mental events are merely correlated with events in particular regions of the brain. Why would one expect the dualist to do anything else, given that a correlation between events does not establish their identity?” (Stewart Goetz and Charles Taliaferro, A Brief History of the Soul, Brief Histories of Philosophy [Oxford: Wiley-Blackwell, 2011], p.156).

 

- William Lane Craig